8You may not need to restart after hours of using Word 98
with a corrupted 1.5 MB file, a draft of a software manual with plenty of screenshots and tables. Tried everything in this thread (except reinstalling Office 98 and the OS). The file at had become so corrupted I couldn't open it without crashing the Mac (I have rebooted 20+ times today). I was able to get the file to open again if I drag and dropped it on the PDF Writer desktop icon and printed the first page only as a PDF (though I
You have experienced a problem more common than many are aware of. Word 98 has problems with certain (not all) documents that are long and complex. I have had this problem with a number of files in the writing of my Ph.D. dissertation. It has made my life miserable. Generally speaking, a number of graphics, tables, and footnotes are a recipe for disaster. Microsoft is aware of the problem and has suggested some possible solutions. I will paste them below as they were sent to me.
Steps to u
se to try and recover corruptmdocuments include:
* Save the file as RTF.
* Copy and paste everything except the last paragraph mark into a new document.
*...In a new document, under the insert menu choose 'object' and then 'from file' to insert the document into this new doc, making sure that you put a check in the 'Link to File' checkbox. Then, under the Edit menu choose Links, and then click 'break link.'
* As a last resort, under the tools menu, choose preferences, and in the Genera
21/08/1999E5Word 98 has problems with certain (not all) documents
Word 98 on a Power Mac 7600/132.
I had a hell of a time with a corrupted 1.5 MB file, a draft of a software manual with plenty of screenshots and tables. Tried everything in this thread (except reinstalling Office 98 and the OS). The file at had become so corrupted I couldn't open it without crashing the Mac (I have rebooted 20+ times today). I was able to get the file to open again if I drag and dropped it on the PDF Writer desktop icon and printed the first page only as a PDF (though I c
l tab, make sure that "confirm conversions" is checked. OK your way out of the Preferences dialog. With the file in question open, under the File menu choose Save As and set the "Save document as" menu to 'Text Only,' tell it where to save the file, then click Save. Close the document. Under File choose Open, set the 'List files of type' menu to 'text files' and then locate your document and click open. A dialog will appear asking you to confirm the file format. Choose Text Only and click
OK. This will at least recover the text out of your document, which can then be reformatted.
I have found these suggestions to help on occasion, but not in every circumstance (saving the file as RTF the moment the problem is recognized has worked twice). I have resigned myself to writing a number of shorter files (limiting each to @15-20 pages) and using a master document to link them. Don't look for a fix. I was told that this was not a common enough problem, and _hopefully_ it will be f
I have had this problem on and off for the last year too, and when a particularly critical job I was doing went haywire, I decided to investigate. With the aid of Alsoft's great little control strip utility and MacsBug I discovered that the problem lies in untold proliferation of open files when using Word98 for any length of time - In a typical day I would have Word open all the time, and after about 4 or five hours of varied file activity with a large file +tables and graphics open, the ter about 4 or five hours of varied file activity with a large file +tables and graphics open, the
nts. To be unable to use MS Word for large documents defeats the purpose of using such a feature-rich, resource-intensive application. If we only used a word processor to write letters, we would use AppleWorks. This issue is so severe it has resulted in a completed standard workgroup document switch to MS Powerpoint except for letters and memos. I find the response of MS to this issue atypical
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printer icon. I also tried something which might have worked for real:
Took the file to a PC and opened it in Word 2000. Saved the file as an RTF. Closed Word. Opened the RTF file in Word. A warning appeared telling me that one of the tables was corrupt and I should convert the corrupted table to text and then back to a table (I wish I had seen this 8 hours ago!). I saved the RTF f
ile as a Word file (changing the name on each save). Quit Word. Opened the latest file. To be safe, I converted each of the 25 or so tables to text and back to tables (during which I did find the corrupted table). Saved the file again with a new name. Took the latest file back to the Mac. Opened it and it appears, and I'm crossing all my digits, to be operable again.
I've sent my disgruntlement to Microsoft. Word 98 would be great if it worked.
Thanks MacFixIt. I'll be back.
Chris Jackson
26/08/1999E9You may not need to restart after hours of using Word 98.
files whose names contain "Backup", "Bkup", and "Work File". Drag them to the Trash and empty the Trash. That gets rid of a lot of the Word files. You may also want to use MacOSPurge to restore unreleased memory blocks to availability. Of course, it's always good to follow the dictum, "Save early, save often."
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ck to find files whose names contain "Backup", "Bkup", and "Work File". Drag them to the Trash and empty the Trash. That gets rid of a lot of the Word files. You may also want to use MacOSPurge to restore unreleased memory blocks to availability. Of course, it's always good to follow the dictum, "Save early, save often."
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William T. Yates
Web Site Design, Writing, Editing
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wtyates@vcnet.com
open file count shoots up. Invoke Excel or any other application that also uses a large number of open files at this point and you're in big trouble. At first I thought it was related to the number of graphics and tables, but it's not - at least not directly. What they do is up the count of open temporary files, and moving about within the document can result in a sudden mushrooming of temp files - you can watch these suddenly appear if you can manage to see the folder you're working in at
the same time.
Anyway, I now know that I must stop, save, and restart the machine every two or three hours. It may be that this is a good discipline, but it's a little annoying when you're up against tight deadlines. Curiously, I only started to notice this when I upgraded to 8.5.1 and 8.6 - not because of any inherent difficulty with these but because it's only been since I upgraded that the Mac has stayed on long enough without crashing for me to find out about, and suffer from, this Wo
I too have seen many Word 98 documents corrupted and wasted days reformatting documents. This has happened with MacOS 8.1, 8.5, 8.6 and Word 98, and with three different hardware configuations. The onset of corruption is marked by a disappearance of formatting from a section of the document. Character formatting (bold, superscript etc.) vanishes, along with paragraph formatting. Attempting to re-format a paragraph results in that formatting spreading to adjacent paragraphs. It's as though rmat a paragraph results in that formatting spreading to adjacent paragraphs. It's as though
ouldn't do much with the file before Word killed it again). I assume dragging and dropping would work for any printer icon. I also tried something which might have worked for real:
Took the file to a PC and opened it in Word 2000. Saved the file as an RTF. Closed Word. Opened the RTF file in Word. A warning appeared telling me that one of the tables was corrupt and I should convert the corrupted table to text and then back to a table (I wish I had seen this 8 hours ago!). I saved the RTF f
ile as a Word file (changing the name on each save). Quit Word. Opened the latest file. To be safe, I converted each of the 25 or so tables to text and back to tables (during which I did find the corrupted table). Saved the file again with a new name. Took the latest file back to the Mac. Opened it and it appears, and I'm crossing all my digits, to be operable again.
I've sent my disgruntlement to Microsoft. Word 98 would be great if it worked.
Thanks MacFixIt. I'll be back.
Chris Jackson
_rd 98 problem. One of life's little ironies!
I can't swear to it, but it seems that after five or six hours of varied activity, Word fails to close a lot of the temporary files it uses, or loses track of them, and you can easily find yourself without enough file slots, especially if your machine is loaded up with third-party software and extensions.
26/08/1999E;I have had this problem on and off for the last year too...
You may not need to restart after hours of using Word 98. Try using Sherlock to find files whose names contain "Backup", "Bkup", and "Work File". Drag them to the Trash and empty the Trash. That gets rid of a lot of the Word files. You may also want to use MacOSPurge to restore unreleased memory blocks to availability. Of course, it's always good to follow the dictum, "Save early, save often."
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William T. Yates
Web Site Design, Writing, Editing
http://www.vcnet.com/wtyateB
wtyates@vcnet.com
the end of paragraph marks stop working. Tables turn into normal text, sometimes with non-printing characters where the start of each cell should be. Pictures sometimes disappear without trace.
Sometimes simply opening a saved document will cause it to become corrupted. Other times saving a document will cause it to become corrupted.
The only way I've found to clean up a corrupted document is to start at one end of the corruption and retype every end of paragraph mark, then re-apply all CTthe missing character formatting.
Dr Ron Haines,
Chemistry, UNSW
Sydney, Australia.
27/08/1999E3I too have seen many Word 98 documents corrupted...
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